why we fight

[jlh]

Look, I know most of you guys feel this show is mostly full of fail after fail after fail and can't understand why anyone would ever watch it. But you know, so is Supernatural, and I don't hear a lot of people ragging too awfully much on the right of folks to watch two brothers drive around in an Impala chasing ghosts.

So here's why I watch Glee: because I knew what they were quoting, and omg Kurt is so Rufus Wainwright right now.

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[jlh]

Because of Popular, or because of Nip/Tuck? I watched some of Popular and yeah, I just feel like he's on crack almost all the time, so I let the plot float by and mostly pay attention to the jokes and the numbers.

I'll go a long way for a musical number.

I would say that Supernatural gets a pass mostly because it's genre, and fangirls will let genre be as failtastic as it needs to be, because they feel like they have to watch all genre television as good card-carrying geeky girls. Musical numbers are for the popular kids.

[dana_kujan]

Nip/Tuck. I get the scientific studies that say female sexuality is more fluid than male. I really do. But Julia going gay and Liz going straight, there was no believable narrative drive to either turn. But, of course, Sean & Christian couldn't get together, or even come close, closer, closer, even though their relationship was co-dependent from the beginning. And this from a gay man. Ugh. It really began to grind my teeth, that the show could go all these daring places, but not there.

I don't disagree on your Supernatural/genre/geek-girl-cred point, but Supernatural also conforms to the golden rule: Slash must first and foremost be derived from a drama with a two white male leads. Drama. White. Male. Pair.

[jlh]

Yeah, that's a hot mess, man. Ugh.

I agree on the slash and SPN, but actually I'm not talking about fandom or really fannish LJ/DW, but more the general media blogosphere and the people I know on tumblr who aren't slashers. It's more that sort of progressive TV watcher. I guess they aren't really watching the run-of-the-mill TV that I'm talking about, but still. Just because you don't watch Big Bang Theory doesn't mean that it's complete inability to develop even one regular female geek character isn't a massive problem.