I have to admit, the Prop 8 Map, which combines the list of donors to anti-Prop 8 organizations with googlemaps, worries me. I know it's all public information. But it's one thing to have a list of businesses to boycott, and quite another, I feel, to know what street someone who donated $50 lives on. (Yes, I've found folks on the map who donated that little.) I've donated money to political organizations here and there, and I stand by it, but I'm not sure I wouldn't feel just a little more reluctant to give $25 a year to Planned Parenthood, especially if I lived in a mainly pro-life area, if I thought that a bunch of folks could come protest at my door. I worry that this sort of thing works to limit political speech, to reduce the effect that Obama just had, to push small donors out of the system because there's just too much risk inherent in donating against your local grain. Which, of course, will just make the people with money even more powerful.
I know I'm a little bit biased about this. The first time I ran into something of this sort was when someone took the state-by-state registries of sex offenders and put them on what must have been a precursor of googlemaps a few years ago. Some of the parents on my flist praised this and saw it as a wonderful tool but I couldn't help but worry about the possibility of harassment. You might think that anyone who commits a crime that gets them on such a list is deserving of whatever they get, but in some states the bar is quite low. In any case, my father was on the list until his death; luckily, Maine doesn't make the full addresses public, or I would have worried for my mother's safety, living as they do on a quiet country road. (And certainly I was pleased to see the swiftness with which they took him off the list after he died.)
Maybe this isn't a great parallel. Maybe my mother deserved to be harassed by anyone with a grudge for staying with my father after his crimes; maybe he deserved to worry that someone might burn down the house. (It's happened, where the addresses were made public.) Maybe that was an incendiary tangent that I just went on. But I do worry that maps like this will have a chilling effect on political involvement. I know that in moving against Prop 8 there's a wish to shame the people who donated to its passage, but can this not be done in reverse? And is the $25 you gave to that political action committee worth protesters at your door?
I know I'm a little bit biased about this. The first time I ran into something of this sort was when someone took the state-by-state registries of sex offenders and put them on what must have been a precursor of googlemaps a few years ago. Some of the parents on my flist praised this and saw it as a wonderful tool but I couldn't help but worry about the possibility of harassment. You might think that anyone who commits a crime that gets them on such a list is deserving of whatever they get, but in some states the bar is quite low. In any case, my father was on the list until his death; luckily, Maine doesn't make the full addresses public, or I would have worried for my mother's safety, living as they do on a quiet country road. (And certainly I was pleased to see the swiftness with which they took him off the list after he died.)
Maybe this isn't a great parallel. Maybe my mother deserved to be harassed by anyone with a grudge for staying with my father after his crimes; maybe he deserved to worry that someone might burn down the house. (It's happened, where the addresses were made public.) Maybe that was an incendiary tangent that I just went on. But I do worry that maps like this will have a chilling effect on political involvement. I know that in moving against Prop 8 there's a wish to shame the people who donated to its passage, but can this not be done in reverse? And is the $25 you gave to that political action committee worth protesters at your door?
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Date: 2009-01-12 10:24 pm (UTC)I do take your point about crazy pro-lifers and PP and all, but are PP contribution records public? In a way, we've been dealing with this in the UK, where the BNP had its membership lists leaked to wikileaks, and so people have been mashing up "where is the BNP?" with Google Maps and the addresses. And I feel kind of skeevy about that, because BNP members are banned from the police and various other jobs, but it's generally a private organisation, and I don't want some foolish old retired guy to get a beating, you know?
For some things, we have protected classes. I'm much more skeeved by the idea of a list on this based on any of those. (Race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, etc.) But I think that political donations are public for a reason, because your representatives and mine decided it was important that everybody know who contributed to registered political organisations. I think I'm okay with the tradeoff of people being concerned about contributing to controversial causes.
(I do think that it was ethically just that Scott Eckerd lost his job at the playhouse in Sacramento, because being anti-gay is not a legally protected class, and I am entirely ethically skeeved by him profiting off the backs of those whose he paid to diminish.)
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Date: 2009-01-13 05:20 am (UTC)I think it's the addresses that worry me more than anything. And I may be pre-wondering about a chilling effect, but a chilling effect would really, really suck.
The Sacramento thing is skeevy, but where does that sort of thing end? That's certainly what I worry about.
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Date: 2009-01-13 12:13 pm (UTC)I dislike slippery slope arguments, but in this case? If we want people to be able to not get fired for personal stuff, then we need to enact employment protection laws. Even then, I'm pretty sure he could still be fired for bringing the company into disrepute, and standard contracts would start to include 'no disrepute' clauses.