Martha, Rose, a bit of Mickey (Rose's ex, who was black), and Russell T Davies previous projects and his handling of POC within those projects.
Fortunately, there are a lot of very patient people who have taken the time to go through things and some good discussion has come from it, even if there's some initial defensiveness.
It's definitely given me a lot of food for thought, and has stayed in my brain these past three weeks. There was initially some "if you don't see it this way, then you are willfully blind/racist/not critically examining the text and subtext". Which isn't necessarily true or really any more productive than "why do you have to ruin my gorgeous finale with your talk of realities of race relations in society?"...I'd go more for, as you said, white privilege and/or pure ignorance. Which isn't any better, but at least there's room to grow from that, if one is willing.
I know I didn't think of any of the events of the DW finale as a race issue initially, though clearly I probably should have. It wasn't that I didn't think it was there or that I didn't care. I knew, obviously, that Martha is black. But the knee jerk reaction (and a lack of familiarity with RTD prior projects) wasn't related to race at all.
I do have several posts to catch up on. Thank goodness for bookmarks. :))
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Date: 2007-07-17 07:24 pm (UTC)Fortunately, there are a lot of very patient people who have taken the time to go through things and some good discussion has come from it, even if there's some initial defensiveness.
It's definitely given me a lot of food for thought, and has stayed in my brain these past three weeks. There was initially some "if you don't see it this way, then you are willfully blind/racist/not critically examining the text and subtext". Which isn't necessarily true or really any more productive than "why do you have to ruin my gorgeous finale with your talk of realities of race relations in society?"...I'd go more for, as you said, white privilege and/or pure ignorance. Which isn't any better, but at least there's room to grow from that, if one is willing.
I know I didn't think of any of the events of the DW finale as a race issue initially, though clearly I probably should have. It wasn't that I didn't think it was there or that I didn't care. I knew, obviously, that Martha is black. But the knee jerk reaction (and a lack of familiarity with RTD prior projects) wasn't related to race at all.
I do have several posts to catch up on. Thank goodness for bookmarks. :))