jlh: Chibi of me in an apron with a cocktail glass and shaker. (Ryan and Simon the kiss!)
Clio, a vibrating mass of YES! ([personal profile] jlh) wrote2008-10-12 01:12 am
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you know, the usual

You can blame this bit of wibbling on it being 1am, or whatever, or on a crisis of confidence caused by some unavoidable external circumstances, but I'm annoyed. And hopefully this isn't wanky. I'm sure that tomorrow after some sleep I'll be back to being happy with my unimportant non-status, bringing things to people who wouldn't otherwise get them, but tonight I'm super cranky.

So I finished reading that idolslash story tonight and I have to say, I was reminded that the real reason I don't read singerslash most of the time is that they are so mean to Ryan and Simon and I admit it makes me sad! Ryan is some sort of pathetic lech who lusts after singers he'll never get a piece of. I mean, I know that Ryan is ridiculous, but the man is not a cretin; he does have his appeal. And then there's Simon, the man you call in to be the big bad, when regular viewers of the show should have realized by now that his criticisms are more nuanced and almost always correct. I mean, the villain in a David Cook story? He loves David Cook! I know that I am a little extreme in my hatred of cliche, but seriously, can we get a little more original, please?

You know, when I got so upset last season about how no one cared that Ryan kissed Simon—I was the only person I knew who posted about it, and there was no mention of it in a reaction thread in someone's LJ that I was reading at the time—I thought, well, this is part of that whole thing where Simon's too old for the fangirls, and so they sort of don't care. Or, they vaguely think Ryan and Simon are doing something anyway, so the kiss wasn't surprising.

But now I'm beginning to think that actually, idolslashers that aren't Rymon types (there isn't much crossover and what there is can mostly be labelled "people who talk to clio") hate Ryan and Simon. They want to see Ryan humiliated by lusting after the singer they're slashing with someone else. They want to see Simon in an AU being completely vanquished by the AU version of their favorite singer, whether that singer ever actually had a problem with Simon or not.

It's really discouraging, because I'm working on this story that, sure, I don't really think more than 10 or so people are going to read, but I really like it, and I was planning on cross posting it of course to the rymon community and here but also to [livejournal.com profile] idolslash but now I'm not so sure. I'd like it to have every chance to be seen by more people, but is larger Idolfandom just so hostile to Ryan and Simon that I shouldn't even bother?

Yesterday [livejournal.com profile] jm_cats commented that he was posting his story at [livejournal.com profile] cakeforever because if it wasn't locked then he'd get harassed, etc. and I said, you know, I have stories up at [livejournal.com profile] idolslash and I've never been harassed by anyone. Is this because the VftW losers also hate Ryan and Simon so much that they don't care or sort of think they're fucking, where they're offended by anyone suggesting that the singers could be? Or is it because they don't care about Ryan and Simon full stop?

I know, this is a whole stupid entry, and it is what it is. I could talk about them til I'm blue in the face, and the only bit of idolslash of mine people are going to read is the cake story. And you know, if it were just, they're younger and hotter, I mean, I thought I'd made my peace with that. But I'm beginning to think that isn't the problem at all.

Is it better to be mysteriously ignored, or to be outright hated? And is it wrong that it makes me sad to see it?

[identity profile] aholder277.livejournal.com 2008-10-12 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh. And it's funny that you mention the kiss from last season that went practically unnoticed. I noticed it and even made a wallpaper out of Ryan's comment in reference to it the next day on his radio show. I posted it to a Ryan site and got no good comments, but 3 comments wondering why I would waste such a cute design and picture of Ryan on such a strange thing that Ryan did and how he should be embarrassed. It nearly made me cry. The wallpaper turned out cute and I wasted it by sharing it with a bunch of people that don't like Rymon at all. TOTAL sadness. It was the first wallpaper I did in a LONG time and it's going to be the last too. People suck. But don't let my tale of woe depress you and keep you from writing. We NEED Rymon fics really badly!!! REALLY BADLY. I'm an infrequent poster and I'm sorry about that, but I really appreciate the Rymon writers. If I'm here there are more like me out there! Write for us! We're few but powerful! :)

[identity profile] jlh.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
You need to post that wallpaper to [livejournal.com profile] flaming_potato right now if you haven't already (and I don't remember that you did). People there would LOVE IT SERIOUSLY. I want to know what quote you used and I can't wait to see the cute design you did!

[identity profile] aholder277.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
You've mentioned flaming potato before but from what I can see that hasn't been updated since 2007. Isn't that true? Want me to just email you the wallpaper? Hell, you can have it. I don't want it anymore...

[identity profile] jlh.livejournal.com 2008-10-20 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
That's because like many rps comms, it's locked--you have to be a member to see the entries. I don't think the mods have to approve you or anything, you just join. The latest entry is today, actually!