While I did not follow HIMYM through its run (I've seen some of the famous episodes like Slap bet and I did watch whatever season ended with Barney getting hit by the taxi after confessing to Ted about Robin but then my watching just fell off), I do understand the sentiment about being glad you stuck with it even if the finale was less than pleasing. I definitely understand being irritated with the notion that somehow not watching a show gives someone points, especially when you can point to any piece of entertainment and find issues; and, yes, some issues are more severe than others, but everyone has their own breaking point.
Brooklyn Nine Nine was such a pleasant surprise for me this season; I really was not looking for another show and I wasn't even really aware of it coming in this season. Actually, I made more of a point to watch The Crazy Ones for James Wolk than anything, but I stopped watching that too. The season finale was great and set up a lot of change without feeling overdone.
I wanted to ask about Boyle. My understanding about the Nice Guy Trope was that the guy has to be really pushy about his feelings and nasty towards the woman when she doesn't return them; and I don't feel like Boyle would revoke his friendship from Rosa for not liking him the way he liked her. He just came across pathetic. I do feel like there is another trope of someone with a crush being pathetic about it and then the opject of affection realizes how the person is worthy; and it seems that most audiences (or a vocal subsection) seem to feel like the male characters deserve the be liked in return and will eventually get angry at the object of affection if she doesn't; while if the genders are reversed, the female with the crush will be treated with scorn especially if she isn't the physical ideal while the male object of affection is. Even thinking of examples in comedy, the idea of a less than standard attractive female desiring a physically attractive male is hardly considered anything beyond a joke. I don't watch Mad Fat Diary but I see it on my dash.
This is a long comment but I needed to speak on Suits: part of me likes that they went for the change but I know it won't last full term. I've always felt that the premise of the show (Mike's Big Lie) was more of a weight than an actual impetus behind what made the show click, and the more the show brought up The Secret, the more irritated I got.
COmedies just do not have a strong fannish presence. There are moments: like I know HIMYM had a surge and BBT. Serious dramas don't really either; it's more of a middle of the road thing. I don't know how you feel about Marvel but I know there is some presence for Agents of Shield.
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Brooklyn Nine Nine was such a pleasant surprise for me this season; I really was not looking for another show and I wasn't even really aware of it coming in this season. Actually, I made more of a point to watch The Crazy Ones for James Wolk than anything, but I stopped watching that too. The season finale was great and set up a lot of change without feeling overdone.
I wanted to ask about Boyle. My understanding about the Nice Guy Trope was that the guy has to be really pushy about his feelings and nasty towards the woman when she doesn't return them; and I don't feel like Boyle would revoke his friendship from Rosa for not liking him the way he liked her. He just came across pathetic. I do feel like there is another trope of someone with a crush being pathetic about it and then the opject of affection realizes how the person is worthy; and it seems that most audiences (or a vocal subsection) seem to feel like the male characters deserve the be liked in return and will eventually get angry at the object of affection if she doesn't; while if the genders are reversed, the female with the crush will be treated with scorn especially if she isn't the physical ideal while the male object of affection is. Even thinking of examples in comedy, the idea of a less than standard attractive female desiring a physically attractive male is hardly considered anything beyond a joke. I don't watch Mad Fat Diary but I see it on my dash.
This is a long comment but I needed to speak on Suits: part of me likes that they went for the change but I know it won't last full term. I've always felt that the premise of the show (Mike's Big Lie) was more of a weight than an actual impetus behind what made the show click, and the more the show brought up The Secret, the more irritated I got.
COmedies just do not have a strong fannish presence. There are moments: like I know HIMYM had a surge and BBT. Serious dramas don't really either; it's more of a middle of the road thing. I don't know how you feel about Marvel but I know there is some presence for Agents of Shield.